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5 Oct 2023

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#### Yields on 10-year Treasuries are now almost equal to the trailing 12-month earnings yield on the S&P 500 index. This is the first time that's the case going back to 2002

Source: Bloomberg, Lisa Abramowitz

[#Fixed Income](https://blog.syzgroup.com/syz-the-moment/tag/fixed-income)

![Yields on 10-year Treasuries are now almost equal to the trailing 12-month earnings yield on the S&P 500 index. This is the first time that's the case going back to 2002](https://blog.syzgroup.com/hubfs/1696436786704.jpg)

![Yields on 10-year Treasuries are now almost equal to the trailing 12-month earnings yield on the S&P 500 index. This is the first time that's the case going back to 2002](https://blog.syzgroup.com/hubfs/1696436786704.jpg)

4 Oct 2023

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#### Reminiscence of 1987 crash?

Carl Quintanilla posted: “When I started in the business in 1987,” reminisces Steve Sosnick of Interactive Brokers, “bonds were mired in a bear market for most of the year while stocks rallied sharply. Until, of course, that reversed ..” John Authers Comparison for bond yields bear a scarily unwelcome resemblance to 36 years ago -\> Source chart: Bloomberg

[#Fixed Income|](https://blog.syzgroup.com/syz-the-moment/tag/fixed-income) [#Food for Thoughts](https://blog.syzgroup.com/syz-the-moment/tag/food-for-thoughts)

![Reminiscence of 1987 crash?](https://blog.syzgroup.com/hubfs/1696416145199.jpg)

![Reminiscence of 1987 crash?](https://blog.syzgroup.com/hubfs/1696416145199.jpg)

4 Oct 2023

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#### Rising bond yields is hurting US banks and it starts to show up in the CDS- see below.

With US Treasuries at 5%, Bank of America is close to 45x levered, at 6-7% infinitely levered. Maybe the Fed should have stress-tested the banks not only on credit quality but also duration... Source: Lawrence McDonald

[#Fixed Income](https://blog.syzgroup.com/syz-the-moment/tag/fixed-income)

![Rising bond yields is hurting US banks and it starts to show up in the CDS- see below.](https://blog.syzgroup.com/hubfs/1696366623188.jpg)

![Rising bond yields is hurting US banks and it starts to show up in the CDS- see below.](https://blog.syzgroup.com/hubfs/1696366623188.jpg)

4 Oct 2023

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#### US job openings top all forecasts as white-collar positions jumped: equity markets tanking as US 10 year yields hit fresh 16y high with all of the increase is due to a rise in real yields

US 10y nominal yields is now at 4.73%, 10y real yields (nominal yields-10y inflation expectations) at 2.37%. THE FACTS - US job openings unexpectedly increased in August, fueled by a surge in white-collar postings, highlighting the durability of labor demand. - The number of available positions increased to 9.61 million from a revised 8.92 million in July, the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey, or JOLTS, showed Tuesday. Hiring edged up, while layoffs remained low. - The level of openings topped all estimates in a Bloomberg survey of economists. - The so-called quits rate, which measures voluntary job leavers as a share of total employment, held at 2.3%, matching the lowest since 2020. Fewer quits implies Americans are less confident in their ability to find another job in the current market. OUR TAKE In the current context of "higher rates for longer" fears, investors are probably over-reacting to this report which is adding some confusion to the current trend (which has been a progressive cooling down of the job market). Source chart: Bloomberg

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4 Oct 2023

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#### German Bond Yields Surge to 3%, Unseen Since 2011!

In sync with global bond markets, German bond yields are experiencing a significant surge, marking a noteworthy milestone. The 10-year German yield has ascended to a remarkable 3%, a level not witnessed since 2011. This notable surge is primarily rooted in the rise of real yields, clearly depicted by the yellow line on the charts. Interestingly, inflation expectations, measured by the breakeven rate, have remained steadfast since the beginning of 2023, with the 10-year German breakeven rate holding firm at 2.29%. Despite the enduring challenges in Europe's economic outlook, there have been noticeable improvements, albeit against the backdrop of economic strain. Over the summer, the Citi Economic Surprise Index for Europe has impressively rebounded, transitioning from a daunting -150 to a more manageable -50. This reflects positive developments amid the ongoing challenges. However, the persistent turbulence in the government bond market can be attributed to several factors. These include the synchronized reduction of balance sheets by most developed central banks, which directly impacts real interest rates and term premiums. Additionally, the narrative of "higher for longer" has prompted a recalibration of flows into the front end of the yield curve, driven by concerns about the long end's convexity potentially not performing well in this scenario. The current resilience of the US economy, coupled with uncertainties surrounding the potential for a second phase of rising inflation within a soft landing scenario and a larger fiscal deficit, adds further complexity to this landscape. Source : Bloomberg

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3 Oct 2023

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#### Is China to blame for the rise in US long rates?

China has cut its holdings in US Treasuries to $822bn, lowest level since 2009. Beijing has been selling $300bn in Treasuries since 2021, & pace of Chinese selling has been faster in recent months, Apollos's Slok has calculated. Source: HolgerZ, Bloomberg

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3 Oct 2023

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#### Incredibly, ultra long-duration Treasury bonds have now lost more in % terms than stocks did during Great Financial Crisis

The drawdown in extended duration Treasury ETF ( 58.3%) now exceeds PEAK-TO-TROUGH losses in S&P 500 during stock market crash of 2007 - 2009 (56.0%) Source: Jack Farley

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3 Oct 2023

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#### US 30Year Yield reaches 2007 High

The US 30-year yield rose to the highest level since 2007. This week's Treasury selloff came after US lawmakers managed to avert a government shutdown, prompting traders to increase bets that the Federal Reserve will raise rates in November.

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